Below is a partial snippet of a past conversation I had with M. Heleus on the topic ;

M. Heleus ; ..good questions--evidently some entities can be interrogated, but have a robotic quality similar to autism since they don't apparently either have, or are connected to, their higher parts as most people in the ordinary range are by the higher harmonics in their voices, as Tomatis' work tends to show, and as amplified also by Manfred Clynes' work re essentic signatures and their sonification. So normally we are hearing the mental circuits still reverberating in the plenum, phantom-leaf style, left by the deceased as an organized sensitivity plenum impression, pulsing phase locked feedback and forward loops of trapped BEC potentials modulated only 3 or even less levels deep. When questioned, these can only produce pre-canned answers devoid of any real originality or objectivity at an autistic or even animal level. (4 mod-levels or more probably would sound like originality.) You might write XXXXXX re his recent EVP experiences at XXXXX@windstream.net. As for Oates, work, yes he's onto something of magnitude, when the technique is well handled. It turns on the understanding of time proceeding forwards and backwards simultaneously, a situation our brain decussation seems designed to help integrate.--M

Donald Adams ( Me) ; > hmmm
>  
> thats interesting... I never knew what to think of his work, I reviewed it quickly some time >ago and moved on... not that I dismiss EVP phenomena right out of hand, just couldnt >figure out how to get anything practically useful out of it.  This is weirdly reminiscent to >the aussie who was marketing'ReverseSpeech'... wonder if he's still doing that.
>  
> So, whats your take on all this, you think this phenomena is real then?  If it is, what do >you think it may be... and what sort of utility may be extracted from it?
>  
> I thought that most of his stuff resulted in nonsensible colloquialisms or the kinds of >phrases you'd expect if you were having a conversation with someone who had severe >autism or something.... even if its relatively clear enough to make out word wise... is it >nonsense or actually meaningful information?
>
> --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:
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>
>     From: Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net>
>     Subject: Re: BINGO - Got it!
>     To: "Doc Stars" <doc_starz@yahoo.com>
>     Received: Friday, July 10, 2009, 8:58 PM
>
>     Sure, Raudive's s/n ratio was poor, and just speeding or slowing the playback and simple filters were about all the tech he had to help--now, anyone with compression/pattern recognition software coming with a mac o/s can crank up mic sensitivity to get very distinct high n/s ratio voices. A friend, xxx xxxxx, recently was videotaping a wrestling match, and when they were out of the room, and only his two colleagues present, he had to up the gain on his mic, noticed a sound like running water beyond the silence levels, and further gain with pattern recognition filtering gave very intelligible voices--one was saying, evidently in reference to his colleagues by the mic 'who are these people?'
>
>
>>     Im not so sure I would have connected these two so easily, the filter constant and Raudives work... didnt Raudiv find mostly gibberish?
>>
>>     --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:
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>>
>>         From: Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net>
>>         Subject: Re: BINGO - Got it!
>>         To: "Doc Stars" <doc_starz@yahoo.com>
>>         Received: Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:46 AM
>>
>>         Yes, I meant Konstantin Raudive--sorry about that
>>         misspelling w/o the final e--M
>>
>>         The train of correlations grabs the attention,
>>         but so does the fact that the source number is
>>         dependent on a set of image distortion
>>         parameters--quarter wavelength does sound a bit
>>         cubic, and s/n ratio = 10 does string you on a
>>         bit, but can we then bite on the whole bit?
>>         better not--bitter disappointment, since once
>>         again the conventional agreement word/number
>>         world doesn't align with the deeper abstract
>>         reality, in this case involving the phase
>>         conjugation of the 30 birds fn. It might be
>>         possible thus to get higher entity transmission
>>         using the .9+ compression system for signal
>>
>>         recognition in a Raudiv effect context, given the
>>         original arbitrary constraints stand up. M
>>
>>
>>         >Old story... you want something done, roll up
>>         >your sleeves and do it yourself instead of
>>         >asking crusty old atmospheric academics...
>>         >
>>         >Ok, so here it is - wanted to share since you
>>         >run stuff past me all the time...
>>         >
>>         >So ; 1.090537599
>>         >
>>         >Is an inverse noise filter
>>         >
>>         >1 / 1.090537599 = 0.916978929
>>         >
>>         >Check it ;
>>         >
>>         >http://spie.org/x648.html?product_id=364126
>>         >
>>         >But the REALLY interesting part is this ;
>>         >
>>         >0.916978929 / 0.0340793
>>         >
>>         >Equals, guess what?
>>         >
>>         >26.90721139
>>         >
>>         >or...  3^3
>>         >
>>         >A what?  A cube!
>>         >
>>         >Recall our previous convos on universe being nested teseracts et al?
>>         >

 

 

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Alien Voices - EVP - ITC - Instrumental Transcommunication
Instrumental Transcommunication


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXcl1aWtf8
(Preview)

5. THE LANGUAGE OF THE VOICES AND HOW THEY SPEAK

Although we are far from grasping the full complexities of the phenomenon as yet, the so-called "voices from beyond", are easily distinguishable from terrestial human voices. They speak in an unmistakable rhythm and usually employ several languages in a single sentence; the sentence construction obeys rules that differ radically from those of ordinary speech and, although the voices seem to speak in the same way as we do, the anatomy of their "speech-apparatus" must be different from our own.

Apart from their paranormal characteristics, the voices that manifest on tape show great similarities to those produced by ordinary human speech organs. It is possible that they may use already existing human voice material. They are softer, (those in Class B or C generally only a whisper) but they do seem to be produced through some kind of speech-apparatus.

I will summarise briefly the characteristics I have mentioned in this section:
http://soundofstars.org/disclosurepart1.htm


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Alien Face on Off TV
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/TV_Alien.html


on 23 Dec 89 a lady named Renee photographed her daughter on a

hobbyhorse next to a 19-inch TV. She saw nothing unusual; but, when

she got the picture back there was a full-screen head of an alien on the TV.

 

The TV was not on. This appears to be a case of instrumented transcommunication
(ITC), a phenomenon studied by several groups in various countries
and written about recently in The Quarterly Review of the Institute
of Noetic Sciences [5]. This is alien technology. Both images look
like they could be the same alien species. The lighting on each
picture emphasizes a circular area on the side of the head above
the area where we have ears. Perhaps this circular area is an organ
associated with the direct projection of thought. It makes me
wonder. These images seem to be influencing our thoughts. I wonder
it they could be a part of a joint human-alien program to do so.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/51230/KGB_Abduction_Files_1_9/


http://www.nationalufocenter.com/artman/publish/article_26.php


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtogfPqkh1M


http://www.google.ca/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=522&q=amoco+alien+photo&gbv=2&oq=amoco+alien+photo&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2182l5491l0l6023l17l16l0l8l8l0l316l1437l1.5.1.1l8l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=instrumented+transcommunication&pbx=1&oq=instrumented+transcommunication&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=371127l371127l0l373545l1l1l0l0l0l0l283l283l2-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=5f5962922b47c19c&biw=1024&bih=522


http://www.worlditc.org/h_08_schreiber_0.htm


http://heyfreqs.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/

 

 

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